Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id SAA16278 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:03:54 GMT From: <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:06:43 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: The Demise of a Meme Message-ID: <3AB9EAD3.17192.349C81@localhost> In-reply-to: <20010322140435.D577@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010322125736.AAA17220@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.87]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:57:39AM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 22 Mar 2001, at 14:04, Robin Faichney wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 07:57:39AM -0500, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> > Hi Vincent Campbell -
> >
> > >Isn't Bhudda [sic] an idol as in any other faith?
> >
> > Buddhism does seem to have an unlimited amount of physical
> > accoutrements required for its practice. More so than xianity? Yeah,
> > I think so,
>
> The willingness of certain people around here to advertise their
> ignorance continues to amaze me. Which Buddhism are you talking
> about, Wade? Therevada or Mahayana? Indian, Thai, Tibetan, Chinese,
> modern Western? How about Zen? How about *my* Buddhism as described
> in the message Vincent was replying to? How many Buddhist physical
> accoutrements do you think I own, Wade? Wouldn't it be a good idea to
> engage your brain before posting to this list?
>
And, of course, only Robin's variant is the One True Way and all
the others are error-ridden hypostasy, just like in Christianity,
Judaism and Islam. I do have a favorable impression of Stephen
Batchelor's BUDDHISM WITHOUT BELIEFS and it's attempt to
strip cultural excrescences from the core of the theory (strip that
lotus, baby; bare that yummy jewel!); I just wish he'd be honest
with himself and the rest of the world and admit flat-out that what
he's left with is existentialism.
>
> > If an indicator of a faith is its use of iconography, buddhism wins.
>
> If there was a prize for self-satisfied pig-ignorance it would be
> yours, Wade, no contest.
>
Every religion uses props, physical or chemical, to aid in the
focusing of one's will upon one's purpose(s); for those who become
adept at such focusing, these props become superfluous, and tend
to fall away. Once one can fly, one may discard one's ladder.
> --
> Robin Faichney
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