Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA12708 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:17:00 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:08:06 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Demise of a Meme Message-ID: <20010322090806.B988@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <20010321191200.AAA224@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010321191200.AAA224@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:11:50PM -0500 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 02:11:50PM -0500, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> On 03/21/01 12:01, Robin Faichney said this-
>
> >So if I tell you I've been feeling slightly more relaxed than usual today
>
> I'd say good for you.
Which is an obvious attempt to divert attention from the question as to
what kind of statement that is.
> >Why does everything that's true or worthwhile have to be scientific?
>
> Everything that is true is scientific. Truth can only be discovered
> through science.
So is my claim about how I feel scientific or not?
> Whether it's worthwhile or not is, however, beyond the
> need of its truth, and into the value judgments of an ethical system,
> which is a memeplex.
>
> Yes?
No. Ethical systems are no more memetic than is science. The difference
between them is in what determines the survival of memes in each one.
You're still pursuing the "you, meme-victim, me, meme-free" thing.
But would memetics be of any interest to you if you had to give that up?
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