Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA27051 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:21:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.220.215] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Art deco TV Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 08:17:21 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F189JsaJbqJGNzscE8N00003eb1@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2001 13:17:21.0351 (UTC) FILETIME=[9943D570:01C0AEE4] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Art deco TV
>Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:33:16 -0000
>
>We all laughed heartily in the UK, when Phil Collins said 'wanker' on Miami
>Vice, a major British swear-word, which he got past the show's producers.
>Ironic given that the show's penchant for slow-motion sequences of people
>getting shot were edited by the BBC for UK audiences, but in the US it's
>the
>swearing that gets censored.
>
Isn't "shag" a bad word in the UK? How well did the title of the Autin
Powers movie "The Spy Who Shagged Me" go over there?
The Phil Collins song "In the Air Tonite" was a big Vice song IIRC. IIRC
KISS's bassist Gene Simmons appeared sans makeup and platform shoes on the
second Vice movie. The blend of music and crime drama was quite trendy.
Another impact Vice had was that it legitimized the "five o'clock shadow".
Men acquired an excuse to skip shaving in the morning, since it was OK for
Crockett/Burnett.
It's been quite a while snce I watched the many episodes of the show, but
IIRC there were a couple socially conscious episodes, such as one that
explored the topic of the shady goings on in Central America. There could
have been some resonances with U2's song "Bullet the Blue Sky".
I distinctly recall the notorious G. Gordon Liddy starring in an episode. If
so, didn't he utter the words: "Ears, Sandinista ears..."? Perhaps memory
fails me.
>
>On the more relevant question, I think this is issue of the relationship
>between culture and technology, and thus memes is important. Is the wheel,
>say, not a meme in some sense?
>
Cool thing about technology...the DVD's have outtakes, alternate endings,
and all kinds of innovations which make renting them far more worthwhile
than hissy and fuzzy VCR tapes. Even though I'm not hearing impaired, I like
having the subtitles/captions mode on and especially love letterbox. One of
these days I'll buy a widescreen TV.
"Manhunter" has been released on DVD. So has the great Miami antihero
"Scarface".
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
===============================================================
This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the
Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission
For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing)
see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Sat Mar 17 2001 - 13:23:21 GMT