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>From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: RE: Toggling nature's auto-erase
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:07:44 -0500
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>>From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
>>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>>To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>>Subject: RE: Toggling nature's auto-erase
>>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:11:42 -0500
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>>On 03/15/01 09:19, Vincent Campbell said this-
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>> >Are you saying here that science is meme-free?
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>>Yes.
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>>Scientists are another matter.
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>It likely depends on what is being called a meme and how far one extends
>memetics as a theoretical system. If memetics is concerned with superficial
>quirks of human behavior and the intention is accounting for a strictly
>limited subset of behavioral phenomena (imitation, trends or whatever)
>there
>would not be as much contention and scientific exploits would probably be
>excluded (for the most part) from the venue of memetics.
>
In case I was unclear here, I meant that scientific ideas would be excluded
as subject matter for memeticists. I wasn't commenting on the supposed
scientific status of memetics as a discipline.
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>Going deeper would
>be the history of ideas aspect which would add a smidgen of historicism
>into
>the mix and extend memetics a little further, encompassing more than mere
>hula hoops and hairstyles.
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>Then the theory of mind folks come along and hyperextend memetics and
>increase the chances of a sprain or tendon tear. Here all behavior is
>explained by memetics, thus none is explained by memetics or something to
>that effect. It becomes a theory of everything.
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