Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id MAA19203 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:20:44 GMT Subject: Re: Toggling nature's auto-erase Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:17:03 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010315121703.AAA25685@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.34]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Robin Faichney -
>> - to the point of which I have declared, manifesto-like, "To a life
>> without memes!" which, to me, is a utopian and ideal state...
>
>You might be surprised to learn that Sue Blackmore and I are in complete
>agreement with you on that. Of course, we equate memelessness with
>Enlightenment, which you probably don't. But then, what does that tell
>us, other than that your concept of Enlightenment differs from ours?
And I had wondered what one with a buddhist's vocabulary would think of
'a life without memes' since it is so seemingly identical to a life
without maya.
I would concur, also, that 'enlightenment' is a good word for this
condition.
And, yes, I don't think our concepts differ at all. This concept of a
being at raw interface with nature is part of the hero archetype, after
all. It is the beauty of the simple and the powerful playing together.
And such is the paradox of stretching across all possibilities.
The club that would admit such a being cannot exist, and the way to this
state involves being in no clubs whatsoever....
Which is why all the clubs come after the enlightened being is long gone.
And why I've held onto a romantic fantasy of not joining any clubs....
- Wade
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