Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA17103 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:27:16 GMT Subject: RE: Toggling nature's auto-erase Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:23:30 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010314142332.AAA23172@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 03/14/01 05:40, Vincent Campbell said this-
>From a memetics point of view, this whole area is very interesting.  Do
>memes work because they are attuned to the range of sensory inputs that our
>filtering mechanisms allow into normal consciousness?  Is that why when a
>colleague of mine kept singing a snippet of 'quando, quando, quando' , and I
>then had it banging around my head for days? (If you know it, apologies, as
>I bet it'll be going round your head later today.)
One has to know the tune, firstly, or hear it. "Quando, quando, quando" 
is totally unreferenced in my head, and so, no, it entered and left with 
dispatch. On the other hand, I've been carrying around, intentionally, 
the little tune that Jan Hammer wrote for the humorous portions of the 
Miami Vice episode called 'Phil the Shill', which was on TNN last night. 
Before that, I was intentionally wandering around with Bill Frisell's 
'What Do We Do' between my virtual ears.
Why? Because I like 'em.
Memes do seem to work as filters, and I'm beginning to see them as only 
this- immediate indexers of perceptions. There is something about the 
ideas of surrealism that have always attracted me in this regard - 
"(Surrealism) declares that it is able, by its own means, to uproot 
thought from an increasingly cruel state of thralldom, to steer it back 
onto the path of total comprehension, return it to its original purity."  
- Andre Breton
- to the point of which I have declared, manifesto-like, "To a life 
without memes!" which, to me, is a utopian and ideal state, as I have 
increasingly begun to see memetic processes as artificial and 
manipulistic, as I have certainly seen the motivations of those who 
profess to be 'memetic engineers' as faintly if at all divorced from 
propagandists.
The idea needs to come first. If one puts spin on it and calls that spin 
'memetic engineering', the idea is lost. It is up to religions and laws 
to so something ethically useful with it at that point....
"Let us not mince words: the marvelous is always beautiful. Anything 
marvelous is beautiful, in fact only the marvelous is beautiful." 
Andre Breton, 1924 
If memetics has anything to do with distorting the beautiful, it is false.
- Wade
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