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Well, which language is spoken by more people globally is a matter of
contention, but most reports I've seen (news reports that is) say it's
English.
But I don't think there's necessarily any perceptual advantage or
disadvantage in speaking a widespread language. That's not what I meant.
All I meant was that whichever language one learns as a native tongue shapes
our perception.
Vincent
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> From: Kenneth Van Oost
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:29 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Lesser genes than expected
>
>
> Hi Vincent,
> You wrote,
>
> So it's not necessarily that a particular language shapes a person's
> thinking processes, with the possibility that some languages may be more
> beneficial than others, but socially through identification with and
> differentiation from others, it contributes to self-perception.
>
> << I still got that odd feeling though !
> So, like I understand what you are saying here, there is a possibility
> that
> you, as a native English speaking fellow has a greater self perception (or
> the illusion of) due to the fact that English is spoken worldwide or less
> self perception due to the same fact !?
> A lesser idea of self perception is due to the fact that you are lost in
> the
> crowd which speaks throughout English !? ( you ain 't gonna get your
> questions about identity answered because you are with so many !?)
>
> And I as a Flemish fellow don 't either way because the Dutch we speak
> in the Flanders is as a language too small to be a clear indicator of our
> cultural influence upon the world, and on the other hand just great enough
> to give me and my fellowmen an indication of our self perception !?
>
> Strange idea but logical I presume.
> But anyway, if we follow this line of thinking, what about the Spanish
> language !? Something reminds me of the fact that Spanish is more spoken
> than English these days, what about the indicator of culture if we take
> this
> as a bias for your hypothesis !?
> I don 't quite take your idea for granted. We Flemish had people, techno-
> logy, etc to offer to the world as clear indicators of our culture.
> If of course you take our history into account than I agree and moreover,
> it would prove a point for me...
>
> Best,
>
> Kenneth
>
> ( I am, because we are)
>
> PS, don 't worry Mark Mills, yours is still to come...
>
>
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