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On 20 Feb 2001, at 15:38, Lawrence DeBivort wrote:
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> Kenneth Van Oost:
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> Maybe intelligence, self- awareness,...has less to do with genetics
> but more with memetics.
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> LdB:
> If intelligence is the ability to consider a great deal of
> information, find new and useful patterns in it, and propose courses
> of action that acheive outcomes better than those proposed by others,
> then memes and other non-memetic beliefs do have a lot to do with
> intelligence, beyond any impacts on intelligence that are genetically
> based. No matter how good the genes, if an individual's beliefs are
> poorly selected, they will not easily be able to perform in the
> 'intelligent' manner suggested above.
>
On the other hand, you can send a hamster to Harvard and show it
non-stop BBC and PBS and still have just a hamster that won't
pass the mirror test for self-awareness. The brains we evolved are
necessary as memetic environments.
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> - Lawrence
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