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Hi Robin,
I wrote,
> > IMO, still, gene products can be permeable with things like memetic
info.
> > That info allowes the gene to " mutate " and that cell is than to be
> > inherited by the progeny.
You wrote,
> I'm sorry, this seems like sheer nonsense to me. Genes do not need
> information, they are not computers, if there's any "editing" going on,
> it is certainly not of that sort.
<< I didn't say they were !
My point is when genes were to be multiple functional they have to have
a inbedded ability to ' choose ' or to switch from one function to another
in order to respond to the stimuli. And I understand that they can do that,
willingly and without asking question.
I better have used the term ' input' instead of info.
But anyway, to switch to the matter in question genes needs ' input',
something that makes it ' choose '_ and that can be IMO memetical in
origin, even though that other genes contribute to this process, the
' input ' can be memetical. Memes drives genes, remerber !?
Genes mutate because something was added or is removed. In both
cases it is some kind of info ( that something ), or are all mutations due
to either self- organization and pure randomness !?
And even then, is there no change in what kind of info the gene possesses !?
I always thought, that you can take the meme- concept to its extremes,
but like the genome rapport shows us now, not anymore the genes- con-
cept.
Genes can 't be that selfish anymore due to their multi- functional
attitude.
The result of a multiple- functional gene mutating has to show itself as
more
differences than we today into a population.
And we humans, are not that genetical different at the species level.
Our differences are due to memetical interactions with the environment.
Best,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are)
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