Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id PAA15495 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:01:57 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:57:41 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Soul and Self Message-ID: <20010206135741.B757@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <3A7F9D39.30053.21FB508@localhost> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102061834490.20443-100000@sushrut.sgpgi.ac.in> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10102061834490.20443-100000@sushrut.sgpgi.ac.in>; from able@sgpgi.ac.in on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:37:44PM +0530 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 06:37:44PM +0530, Dr Able Lawrence wrote:
>
> Absolutely
>
> In complex systems, system behaviour can be treanscendantal and cannot be
> explained entirely by the properties of its basic constituents as any one
> from Computer Science would testify.
Depends what you mean by "entirely explain". Detailed prediction is not
possible, but modelling of likely scenarios is. (MSc IT, with experience
of systems dynamics modelling)
> For example can properties of Silicon explain theaesthetics of a Nivel
> writtten on a word processor in a computer made of Silicon. Looking for
> evidence of mind in neurons is like looking for novel in Silicon!!
True. And looking for top-down mind->body causation is like looking for
software control over hardware! In practice we do very well by assuming
it happens, but on analysis the distinction is "all in the mind",
and it's hardware all the way down/up. Which is not to say the latter
view is "the correct" one. What is best depends on what one is trying
to achieve at the time. Of course those who are neurotically driven to
find ultimate answers to cling to will never accept that. I'm only glad
we have nobody like that here!
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