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Hi,
No, I don't see memes as having a 'will' of their own, or interests. They
have design properties that cause them to do certain things. If the
properties meet the requirements of self-dissemination and self-protection,
then the meme may be 'successful'. But this does not mean that they have the
ability to be concened, or have interests to be concerned about.
- Lawrence
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of William Benzon
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 7:51 PM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Labels for memes
on 1/31/01 6:46 PM, Lawrence DeBivort at debivort@umd5.umd.edu wrote:
> Bill, what do you mean, 'turn on their masters'? Do you mean that the
effect
> of th ememe was counter to what its launcher intended -- that it
backfired?
> or are you thinking that a meme 'mutated' in some way during the course of
> its dissemination and that the mutated meme then harmed the interests of
the
> launcher?
Either one is fine by me. The memes are concerned about their interests,
not the master's, no?
BB
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