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A wqay out of this dispute is to use de Sassure distinction between langue
and parole
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> On 01/31/01 04:53, Robin Faichney said this-
>
> >But Mozart wrote {\em an\/} opera called The Marriage of Figaro, no matter
> >how many productions of it have subsequently taken place. Though every
> >production is probably slightly different, these are considered versions
> >of the same opera, rather than different operas, due to what they have
> >in common: the information they share. A particular performance of it
> >remains just that---a particular performance---even if it was recorded,
> >and thousands of CD's made.
>
> (What is {\em an\/}...?)
>
> There are schools of philosophy and aesthetics that quite bluntly and
> explainedly deny that a work, like Mozart's Figaro, has an original and
> separate entity from its performance.
>
> I just saw the Boston Premiere of a Rodrigo piece for guitar and flute.
> It was not described as the premiere of the performance, but the premiere
> of the work. There is an identity to a piece of music that remains
> uncomplete until it is performed. What does a score and its performance
> have in common...?
>
> - Wade
>
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