Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA27357 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:21:56 GMT From: <lhousego@axa.com.au> X-Lotus-FromDomain: NMH@NMHEXT@NMHDMZ To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Message-Id: <4A2569DF.0000BF29.00@c2.nm.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:15:58 +1000 Subject: Re: this list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
No. I disagree. Email insulting is very topical for memetics, how even more
relevant when done by people consciously studying memetics!
I strongly recommend experiencing some of the newer online computer games,
where whole subcultures rapidly evolve within weeks using electronic
communications mediums. These academic newsgroups arguments are lightweight
late adopter knuckle walkers by comparison. Insults, offensive graphics,
denigration of opponents, and blatant self promotion are used as effective
strategies to win these games. The insults have even evolved to not use
alpha numeric characters so they can't be scanned for and blocked by filter
programs.
a typical example
"1 0wn j00, j00 n3wb13 wh0r3"
roughly 1 = I, 0 = o, j00 is you, 3 = e. It can change, it just has to
look vaguely like what |_| w4n7 17 70 s4y. This is fantastic for research.
It is used as a stratgey to modify the behaviour of a person who cannot see
or hear you, to give the insulter an edge. This only started being used
internet wide on a large scale about 8 months ago, but spread because of
it's effectiveness.
The internet, and even scienctific research, in my opinion, is not about
mutual respect. The search for truth, understanding and progressing our lot
in life is perhaps more relevant. Respect can help that sometimes, but can
also hinder it.
So basically, d0|\|7 5p4m m3 w1f y3r n00wby 1337157 b3 n1c3 cr4p.
Hope you understand. Just a differing opinion. That's all.
(Actually i do get a bit bored of the really long running arguments, so in
a sense your response is quite valid. I just don't think an appeal to
respect will work.)
"Diane Benscoter" <diane.benscoter@csgpro.com> on 25/01/2001 02:43:44 am
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Hi,
I've been reading the discussion list for several weeks now. I'm very
interested in the topic of memetics and appreciate the thinking and
knowledge base that goes into the discussion. What's up with the insulting
tone that is so prevalent throughout? It really gets old fast. Does
anyone
else feel this way? It's almost not worth it to me to stay subscribed.
Can't you show a little respect for each other and keep your insults to
yourself? It is possible to disagree without spitting at each other.
Diane Benscoter
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