Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id VAA07566 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:11:47 GMT Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:08:36 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010119210713.AAA4053@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 01/19/01 14:43, Robin Faichney said this-
>Take your suggestion, above, that we don't imitate each other, that all
>behavioural similarities are due to intrinsic individual characteristics,
>and are never mediated by communication.
_I_ never said any such things.
I am saying that the 'mediation of communication' can be considered, (and
there's no reason not to consider it such), a tube that the behavior
rolls through.
All balls are not created equal, but the tube is the same.
All cultural behavior can be considered, and there ain't no reason not to
consider it such, as a response from an adapted organism to an
environmental stimulus.
Said environment composed as much of communicative entities as of rocks
and floors and air and clouds.
What is 'evolving' (if evolving culture can be said to happen at all, and
I ain't convinced), is not the internal/external ghost of a meme, but the
ever-changing environment that the behaving entity rolls down.
Said entity being composed as much of communicative properties produced
by biological evolution, (which proceeds mostly, in this species, through
sex), as of the self that this evolution has let escape from "[the]
matter/energy configured in sufficiently complex, dynamic and recursive
patterns to permit it to breach the Godelian barrier and impose meaning."
(Thank you, Joe....)
>If you don't like my reaction to you, then stop trying to engage me
>in dialogue. In return, I'll stop responding to anything of your's
>that isn't addressed directly to me.
Silly limey ....
- Wade
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