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Thanks, Mark
First, let me stress that we treat memes as linguistic units. Not that all
linguistic elements are memetic, but all memes will have specific linguistic
properties and coding, some structural and some informative/substantive.
So our research has focused on the transmission, dissemination and retention
of language that is coded memetically as it spreads (or fails to) through a
population. We 'measure' two things: 1) the language as it spreads and is
degraded, and 2) the behaviors/individual and collective actions that are
undertaken by the recipients of the memes as a result of their receipt
(before-after comparisons).
I should mention another memetic issue we are trying to understand: ethics.
We believe that memes can be designed and released deliberately, with
potentially significant consequences. So our technical research is meshed
with an ethical inquiry and guidance. We have not 'solved' this issue, and I
am not sure it can be.
- Lawrence
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Mills <mmills@htcomp.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: DNA Culture .... Trivia?
> Lawrence,
>
> At 02:00 PM 1/9/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > From a sociological and communicational POV, one can carry out empirical
> >research easily, without knowing much about the substrate. For example:
> >fidelity of transmission, rates of dissemination, and resistence to
> >alteration can all be determined without brain/substrate knowledge.
>
> I'm interested in how this works. For instance, transmission fidelity,
how
> does one measure fidelity without 'something' to measure? The same goes
> for dissemination and resistance to alteration.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> http://www.htcomp.net/markmills
>
>
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