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        Chris Lofting keeps insisting that the totality of irreduceably 
triadic systems should count on the same basis as any 
constituent element of those systems.  Thus, by his pseudologic, 
the system of signification should count alongside sign, signifier, 
and signified, the system of conception should count alongside 
conceiver, conceiving, and conceived, the system of perception 
should count alongside perceiver, perceiving and perceived, the 
system of vision visual input should count alongside color, 
brightness and shape, the system of auditory input should count 
alongside pitch, loudness and timbre, the perceptual field as a 
whole should count alongside focus, field and fringe, etc., the 
complexure of experience should count alongside mind, world and 
perception generally, all as if a whole could be counted as if ir were 
one of the parts, committing an egregious category error and 
violating a cardinal concept of mereology (the philisophy of wholes 
and parts), all in the service of giving him his all-important fourth 
constituent.  However, his problem is more basic, and more lethal 
(if such a thing were possible) than even this.  In specifically and 
irreduceably dyadic systems, such as being and becoming, rest 
and motion, presence and absence, self and other, living and dead, 
even sameness and difference, he would of necessity have to, in 
order to be self-consistent, include the systems which these dyads 
comprise in his counts, yielding (gasp!) THREE!  He cannot have 
his cake and eat it too.  There can be no rational reason why the 
whole has to be counted alongside its parts in triadic systems at 
the same time that such a device is forbidden in dyadic ones.  
Either such a device is mandated in both triads and dyads or it is 
forbidden in either. This insoluble conundrum is the unclimbable 
logical mountain; the barrier which his methodology cannot breach, 
and which consigns his assertions to the realms of either logical 
error and mistake or reductio ad absurdums them into 
nonsensicality.  There is no room to wriggle between the Scylla 
and Charybdis horns of this fatal dilemma.  Game over.  Q.E.D.
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