Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id JAA06347 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:53:04 GMT Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745B2A@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: FW: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:50:47 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Cheers Robin, for the clarifications.
Outwith is used in official paperwork here at the university, so it is as
you say a proper word not slang, but as I say I hadn't heard it (or hadn't
noticed) before moving to Scotland which is why it sticks in my mind.
Vincent
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> From: Robin Faichney
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:09 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: FW: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:09:32PM -0000, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > For
> > example, Scots use the word 'outwith', roughly meaning the same as
> outside
> > (so, e.g. 'this shop is closed outwith the hours of 6pm...),
>
> I don't particularly remember hearing the word in the context of time.
> I think physical location is more usual. Eg, the village lies outwith
> the designated area. I'm convinced the word does have a slightly
> different connotation than "outside", but I haven't yet managed to put
> that difference into words...
>
> > and they have
> > this phrase, which west coast and east coast scots have disagreed about
> when
> > I've asked them, regarding the time. People say things like 'I'll meet
> you
> > at the back of six', which I'm not sure whether that means just before 6
> > o'clock, or just after, and how long before/after it means.
>
> Take my word for it, as a Scot, it means just after. One "slang" word
> that Scots definately _do_ disagree on, is "flog". To me, and many
> others, it means "sell", but some (to me, stupid) people insist on using
> it to mean "steal".
>
> "Outwith" is not slang, by the way -- it's far too well established to
> fall into that category.
>
> --
> Robin Faichney
> robin@reborntechnology.co.uk
>
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