Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id XAA25645 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:39:26 GMT From: <laurie@green.net.au> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001119224430.0090c2a0@mail.green.net.au> X-Sender: laurie@mail.green.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:44:30 +1100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: John Hancock "meme" In-Reply-To: <200011181549.HAA01098@mail2.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
At 07:49 AM 11/18/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Here in the states we have this saying (a "meme" if you will) where when
someone wants you to sign something they say: "You can put your John
Hancock right here." I wonder where this saying originated [eg] and whether
the Brits also use it when they want someone to sign a document (something
like a declaration I think) ;-)
i used to work in UK collecting signatures on contracts -10yrs- and never
came across the expression. i think in britain it would be mistaken at the
point of signiture for 'handcocked' with iT's connotations.
......though as john Hancocks (now a meta-insurance player) is the subject -
perhaps you can help *us to modify and redistribute the handcock meme so
that john hancock becomes synonomus with poor forest management resulting
rainforest destruction and killing koalas a listed endangered species. as
you can see a bit of a mouthful to convey!
maybe memeticists can devise an experiment to alter the N.american
association with 'jay aitched'. i can certainly point you towards a
vigourous religiosity in australia that would contribute dissonance to
their 'campaign'/ your experiment. would deliberatly altering the meme have
significant cultural detriment in the usa? or has the meme, springing as it
does from the axiomatic document of US idealism, become too entangled with
the whole memeplex of being a US citizen; to have it's *fashion altered?
laurie green
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