Re: Purported mystical "knowledge"

From: Lawrence H. de Bivort (debivort@umd5.umd.edu)
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 22:13:27 BST

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    I would agree with Wayne, generally: I see memes as things that program
    people and their thinking, that constrain the range of options that they
    can consider.

    I also wonder, though, whether there may not be a set of memes of such a
    basic character that without them a person would be 'lost,' culturally,
    having always to rethink things, and possibly making decisions so wrong
    (by conventional standards) that it renders the person socially
    dysfunctional.

    I guess this approaches the age-old question of how much freedom is
    enough, and how much too much.

    Lawrence de Bivort
    The Memetics Group

    On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Wade T.Smith wrote:

    >Hi Brent Silby --
    >
    >>It is hard to imagine a mind with absolutely no memes. It would be a
    >>dull, non-eventful blank space.
    >
    >Or it would be completely free and active in all realms and to every
    >situation, without the prisons and walls of beliefs and society.
    >
    >The world without memes does not seem dull at all to me, just the
    >contrary- it seems edenic.
    >
    >- Wade
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