Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA21191 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:15:02 +0100 Subject: RE: the conscious universe Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:11:42 -0400 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas est veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20001002131142.AAA5365@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On 10/02/00 08:35, Chris Lofting said this-
>Joe's emphasis on 'empirical facts' denies humanity.
>As for you Robin, some of your comments seem to be made in a context that
>favours 'facts' but are not identifiable as such (and so Joe comes charging
>in!).
>Before we try to touch on such subjects as 'the conscious universe' perhaps
>we should all go and do some more reading re how we make our maps.
I would seem to concur with this, as I've made several allusions to maps
in these discussions, to ways of modeling.
As I am also looking for consilience among all the mapmakers.
Empirical facts don't deny humanity, they just don't need it.
Mysticism doesn't deny facts either, but it doesn't need 'em.
One map would seem to never intersect the other, or describe the same
place, but, it would seem to me that the progress of both of them is
toward the other.
There does need to be a topology of philosophy.
- Wade
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