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Subject: Re: solipsistic view on memetics
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> In a message dated 9/12/00 2:33:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> chrislees@easynet.co.uk writes:
>
> << Subj: Re: solipsistic view on memetics
> Date: 9/12/00 2:33:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> From: chrislees@easynet.co.uk (Chris Lees)
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> Hi Joe,
>
> >People get caught up in the extremes of a position, rather than
> >taking the more balanced view of the middle way between. The
> >opposite extreme from solipsism (that mind is all) is the position
> >that some Buddhists hold, i.e. the doctrine of no-mind - the
> >doctrine that mind is nothing and that selves do not exist, and that
> >the opinion that one's self does exist is a delusion (which prompts
> >the question of, if selves didn't exist, what could possibly be there
> >to be deluded).
>
> And for an eternity, the zen masters have been supplying the answer
> (to deaf ears mostly) which is, if I am not mistaken, very roughly and
> approximately, " Mu !" >>
>
> Hi Chris -
> According to the M-W Dictionary, 'mu' is the twelfth letter of the
> Greek alphabet. Is there another meaning that would fit what the
> zen masters meant by "Mu !" ?
>
It's a sound that cows repeat incessantly verbatim, and of which
other herd animals (humans included) have their own versions.
Ours are memetically inspired.
>
> Len Jayson
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