Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA29820 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:52:40 +0100 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:49:46 +0100 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Purported mystical "knowledge" Message-ID: <20000917194946.A3754@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <f9.2cdc42f.26f64c01@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <f9.2cdc42f.26f64c01@aol.com>; from LJayson@aol.com on Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:32:01PM -0400 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 12:32:01PM -0400, LJayson@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/17/00 2:23:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> robin@reborntechnology.co.uk writes:
>
> << The "non-material reality" consists of information -- though it's very
> solidly based on matter. Memes are items of information, encoded in
> both neural and behavioural patterns. When someone observes another's
> behaviour, the meme travels from behaviour to brain, changing its form
> from behavioural to neural encoding. When that person subsequently
> performs the same behaviour, the process is reversed. The uncertainty
> is that inherent in any en/de/recoding process: the outcome depends not
> only on what "went into" the carrier, but also what key is used to get
> it out again. >>
>
> Hi Robin,
>
> I would be most appreciative if you would expand a bit on the word
> 'key.'
This is very simple: in any coding scenario, there are 3 entities:
(1) the encoded information, or message, (2) the carrier, and (3) the
key or code, which is required to extract the message from the carrier.
In encoding, the carrier results from the interaction between the message
and the key. In decoding, the message results from the interaction
between the carrier and the key. If we consider memes to be (differently)
encoded in both brains and behaviour, the key is anything that can
be considered to stimulate the transformation, in either direction,
i.e. to cause brain-stored information to become behaviour, or behaviour,
through observation, to become brain-stored.
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