Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA08533 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 26 Jul 2000 19:59:40 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bff737$77b9f200$5903bed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <200007260308.XAA06059@mail3.lig.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Gender bias for memes Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:26:57 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Joe, fair enough !!
But, I do have one remark ! Theory is allright, and should the beginning of
the search into memetics. The way I try to " theorise " some aspects is from
practice examples.
Regards,
Kenneth
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe E. Dees <joedees@bellsouth.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: Gender bias for memes
> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: Gender bias for memes
> Date sent: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:03:01 +0200
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joe E. Dees <joedees@bellsouth.net>
> > To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Gender bias for memes
> >
> >
> > > He has discussed in too many words, while saying little if anything,
> > > for quite some time now. The cascading concatenation of fuzz
> > > inundating this list has caused the more serious among us to say
> > > little, and none of them address Chris. They recognize a memetic
> > > infection when they see it. Only the blissfully oblivious newbies are
> > > embracing his word salad.
> >
> > Come Joe, you can do better than that !! The more serious !? What do
you
> > think I am, it is not that I adress myself to Chris that I am a kind of
> > fool.
> > Chris representation was something I did not know, that is the idea re
left/
> > right etc is a main interest of mine, Chris took it trough another
angle...
> > So what if I do believe him or not !? Memetic infection !? So what,
what
> > are
> > you afraid of, that your little pretty mind would be infected by some
memes
> > you don 't like !? So what !? Stay out of the conversation like you did.
> > The moment you intered the discussion between Chris and me, what reason
> > did you have, you and the ' serious ones ' !?
> > To make an end at the joke !? Well you did it !! Thank you very much !
> > Is that now memetics !? I did say it before, if you don 't believe
somebody
> > 's
> > word salad, challenge him, that is the purpose of this list, not to
employ
> > your
> > own fine ideas...
> > And so what that I am newbie, what 's got that to do with it !!
> > And keeping a ' cordon sanitaire ' ,treaten a fellow member as an
outcast,
> > ' none of then adressed to him... ' !?
> > So what, start up another tread, it is easy...
> > So, I assume that all members has seen it coming then !! Fine, another
> > lesson learned, a hard one, but I let this rest now, it is over.
> > I 'll go back to the subject which I originally started, with your help
or
> > not,
> > I will continue to write to Chris.
> > If that should however undermine mine credibility, well so be it !
> > I have mine interest, you got yours.
> >
> >
> > > Is racial memetic bias next?
> >
> > Why not, memetics is everyone 's game !!
> >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kenneth
> > > >
> > > > (I am, because we are) disappointed
> > > >
> I have understood the purpose of this list as one of studying
> memesis in general, not the proselytization of memesets to which
> one is particularly attached. People who cannot get beyond their
> particular memes to consider memetics in general, are examples
> of memetics in action, but are not themselves pursuing memetics
> itself - just propagating their particular memes (something which
> can be found on any fundamentalist list of any religious stripe).
> We have generally here attempted to converse at a higher level of
> abstraction and generality; talking ABOUT meme and memeset
> spread in general, not spreading particular memes ourselves.
> Theory - not practice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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