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Elmo Recio wrote:
> What strikes me most odd is whether or not 
> memetics would fall into pseudoscience range. However, 
> even the demarcation of what /is/ science is arguable. 
> 
> The five points brought up by Ruse as to the 
> ``characteristic features'' of what we call science today 
> are: explanatory, predictions, testability, 
> confirmations, falsifications, and most importantly (IMO) 
> tentativeness. 
My tuppence worth :)
In my review of Sue Blackmore's book on amazon (uk) I call 
memetics a great idea, but a poor theory. However, I do not 
think memetics necessarily qualifies as a pseudoscience. As 
an explanation I believe that Memetics stands as a 
scientific one. The 'natural laws' that are established 
are the 'law' of evolution through natural selection. 
Culture seems to have the properties that Derek refers to; 
the qualities which make it a replicator in an evolutionary 
algorythmn. The question is whether there is scientific 
evidence to support this explanation.
As with any evolutionary process predictions are 
difficult. Because of random variation, and the complexity 
of the selective environment; simple predictions about the 
future forms that culture will evolve are nigh on
impossible. However, this lack of predictive power does not 
in itself make memetics a pseudoscience any more than the 
theory of biological evolution. 
Of course, the current failure to make scientifically 
testable predictions does mean that empirical tests of the 
theory and confirmational findings are hard to generate. 
And this does make it difficult to convince reasonable 
sceptics that memetics is a scientifically valid idea.
However, it is possible to falsify the detail of the
theory: claims that imitation is the cornerstone of 
cultural evolution may be undermined by examples from 
animal imitation studies (perhaps); the claim that memes 
drove human evolution towards developing a big brain might 
be undermined by fossil record, or findings that a big 
brain provides some other function not associated with the 
transmission or retention of culture; etc. In addition, 
computer or web-based simulations of memetic processes 
might provide something of the evidence we would like to 
see support our 'good idea'.
One of the most frustrating things about memetics is the 
paucity of hard testable predictions about the way that 
memes vary, are transmitted, and are selected. By focussing 
on the process itself rather than the products of culture, 
it should be possible to make predictions and then test 
them (as I suggest above). Conversely, endless 
illustrations of 'the memetic process at work' whether it 
be the rise of the Nazi's or the spread of Pokemon, do 
little to convince the scientifically minded because they 
are simply unfalsifyable. 
In addition to not waiting for neurology to 'catch up' or 
hoping that consciousness or 'free will' will solve 
our problems understanding selection or variation. Memetics 
needs people who are prepared to 'stick their necks out' and
make strong falsifyable claims that can be tested.
Whilst there are meme theorists with the courage to make 
strong claims, and the good humour to accept the inevitable 
criticism, and the humility to accept that their ideas 
could be wrong; then memetics will at least have the 
intellectual honesty of a science - even if the memetics 
hypothesis is one day proved to be entirely wrong. The 
theorists who possess the qualities I have listed 
above I think would have good claim to the tentativeness 
you describe as a vital feature of a scientific theory.
Tentativeness may not be a guide as to whether a theory is 
good or bad, scientific or not; but I personally always use 
it as a guide to determine whether I am talking to a 
scientist or a pseudo-scientist.
Regards,
Nick
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Nick Rose
Email: Nicholas.Rose@uwe.ac.uk
"University of the West of England"
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