From: Jerry Bryson (jbryson@infionline.net)
Date: Mon 13 Feb 2006 - 17:44:11 GMT
On Feb 12, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Douglas Brooker wrote:
> Jerry Bryson wrote:
>
>> Off-hand, I'd guess he means the one about suicide bombers getting a
>> load of virgins in Paradise. The teen age kids really believe it.
>
>
> thanks, was making the point about how this meme has captured the
> minds of people in the west.
>
> but I haven't seen evidence that it 'really' is believed, or the
> degree to which any belief is literal, metaphoric or otherwise.
I'm sure it isn't what they _all_ believe; it's what a few stressed-out
kids believe. I did see one news feature where they were interviewing
a kid whose bomb didn't go off and the Israelis caught him. He claimed
to believe the virgins meme.
Virgins or not, a few folks, even adults, seem to think blowing
yourself up and killing innocents is a good thing to do. To me, that
sounds like not knowing right from wrong, which qualifies as crazy in
many Western jurisdictions.
> a working comparative model might be to juxtapose the "End Days"
> beliefs of many westerners and how these motivate foreign policy in
> the middle east.
Yes, even Jimmy Carter. Frankly, I think the Palestinians are just as
Jewish as the mostly European transplants in Israel.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Douglas Brooker wrote:
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>>>
>>> What is the very dangerous meme out there that needs to be doused?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice,
>> they're different."
>>
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