From: Kate Distin (memes@distin.co.uk)
Date: Thu 26 Jan 2006 - 16:18:49 GMT
Scott Chase wrote:
>> From: "Price, Ilfryn" <I.Price@shu.ac.uk>
>> Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>> Subject: RE: legend of Greyfriar's Bobby
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:23:34 -0000
>>
>> > I tried snopes with no luck using "greyfriar", "greyfriar's", and
>> "skye"
>> > as
>> > keywords. "terrier" produces some hits but not anything to do with the
>> > "Greyfriar's Bobby" legend. I wonder how much truth is in the
>> legend. Was
>> > there anything to the story that got it started and perhaps
>> embellished a
>> > bit?
>>
>> 466 for "Greyfriars Bobby" snopes
>>
> Did you analyze any of those hits for content? One of the first I saw was:
>
> http://msgboard.snopes.com/message/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/79/t/000259/p/1.html
>
>
> Which is an informal discussion board where Greyfriar's Bobby is
> mentioned in passing as similar to the topic being discussed. The person
> expressed some reservations about the legend, but this hardly qualifies
> as a formal snopes debunking of an urban legend. I tried finding
> reference to the legend on snopes.com itself using their search option
> and had no luck. I have respect for snopes as being authoritative on
> urban legends, so if they have actually address the "Greyfriar's Bobby"
> legend, I would respect that. Are any of those 400+ hits relevant to the
> legend's veracity or just incidental keyword overlaps? Finding 400+ hits
> on a search engine means nothing without actually reading what is said
> in the content of those hits.
>
>
Google results seem to converge on the understanding that the story is
an embellishment of a more mundane original set of facts. Apparently
there was a 1989 book by Forbes MacGregor, "Greyfriars Bobby the truth
at last" which explores this and claims that Bobby belonged to a
policeman who guarded the cattle mart; that he was reluctant to leave
his master's graveside at first; that he didn't actually stay faithfully
by the graveside but did live locally until his death many years later;
and that the churchyard was also a favourite local haunt for dogs.
Which would make sense memetically, I suppose - we do love a good story
but there may have been enough original details to grab attention in the
first place. Then the story evolved.
Kate
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