Re: Religion and evidence

From: Ben Dawson (dawson.derbys@clara.net)
Date: Fri 20 Jan 2006 - 23:06:28 GMT

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    On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:51:41 -0500, you wrote:

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    >Switching topics, religion is a social instituion. Christians tend to gather
    >on Sunday mornings and hang together with family, friends and acquaintances.
    >Is a true belief in God necessary to mingle with the town folk? People go to
    >bars for the social atomosphere and don't drink, like the music or dance. In
    >church, one need not imbibe the holy spirits to attend. In junior high and
    >high school I stopped attending formal church services, but did enjoy a
    >youth group on Sunday nights. It was a place to hang with friends and go on
    >the occassional field trip to the mountains or the Keys. On one of those
    >field trips I enjoyed poking fun at the counseler's arguments about devil
    >music (Zeppelin played backwards, evil Ozzy, etc).
    >
    >I'm not sure how judgemental I could be about parents bringing their kids to
    >church at a young age. In many communities its a part of the social fabric
    >and pretty much the accepted norm. It probably depends on the church and how
    >fundamentalist the views are. If it encroached upon the kids schooling,
    >especially in cases where parental views on sex ed and evolution conflict
    >with reality, then I think there's cause for concern. But as a place to
    >gather and rub elbows with people, churches serve a social function.
    >
    >Could we really look down on Amish communities for putting their children
    >through their ways of life? If Amish children began drifting away after
    >rumspringa and the Amish churches folded (highly unlikely, but
    >hypothetical), that would be the loss of a entire mindset, which would be
    >analogous to a species going extinct. Someone driving through Lancaster,
    >Pennsylvania might never again encounter one of their buggies being pulled
    >along the road. In some respects the Amish are a reservoir of tradition.
    >
    >
    Yeah, fair point Scott and I can't really argue. I'd never even heard of Amish communities before but after a quick read (good old Wikipedia) it does seem that religion is basically at the heart of their community. I agree that it would be a great shame to lose traditions such as those.

    Maybe I am being too judgmental. After all, if I lived in an Amish community I'm sure I would subscribe to the practices of the community, or if I were Christian for that matter, I would probably share Kate's views.

    Maybe it's just the meme of atheism trying to reduce the survival chances of its alleles!

    Ben

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