RE: Dawkins on Channel 4 tonight

From: Price, Ilfryn (I.Price@shu.ac.uk)
Date: Mon 16 Jan 2006 - 13:56:17 GMT

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    My resolution of the position is the arguments that memes both enable and limit. Without memetic evolution (aka concepts and ideas lodged in language, symbols and artefacts) we would not have organisations and 'culture' (the shell midden story for anyone who has read the science of discworld two), but memes bent on their own replication (usual caution against causality) act to prevent change and development and can, in extremis, be damaging (Dawkins Gerin Oil).
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    From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk on behalf of Kate Distin

    Speculation about the reason why belief in God persists - whether the speculation latches onto genetic or memetic explanations - is irrelevant to the question of religion's *truth*. An evolutionary account of religion is usually *based on* the assumption that God doesn't exist: it is not a proof of that assumption.

    The same point stands in response to Kenneth's question whether religion is a mental disease. Language like this (or like Dawkins's "mental virus") implies that religion is something harmful and misguided, but neurological explanations of religion are no more relevant to the question of God's existence than evolutionary explanations are.

    Kate

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