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> From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
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> Subject: Re: [Memes and sexuality]
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> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 1:45 PM
> Subject: RE: [Memes and sexuality]
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> > Is there a relationship between technologically (or militarily) advanced
> > nations and degrees of sexual taboos?
>
> << Hm, difficult to pin point, but in the case of the technologically
> advanced
> nations I would say, yes_in the context that those technologies (can) show
> more sex perversities (like video, cd-rom, internet,...)
>
> Strange though, that the first thing a new technology brings
> about is how to
> constrain its possible misuse...!?
>
> There is a saying, the more intellectual you are, how lesser bodily active
> you become.
There was some recent study that showed the more educated you are the more
prone to sexual adventures...
Perhaps due to the realisation about choices? More sensitive to DIFFERENCE
and so more attracted to experimentation ?
It would be logical to initiate taboos in order to speed up
> technologies or military advances. The more you are active due to the
> technology (or due to military activities) the lesser you have
> time to have
> sex. Technological or military meme-plexes would take advantage of this,
> and would constrain sex with surroundin ' it with taboos.
>
> Maybe, somebody on this list would know the answer to the following,
> _Is there evidence that since the Industrial Revolution our sex-drive
> is dimisnishing !?
More so our drive to have children is diminishing, you can have sex and
enjoy it, it is not something just there for procreation. This shows
discernment, you have a choice. To see the amount of choice, go on the net
:-)
>
> Just a thought which popped up, in general this list has not many ladies
> as members, I did get post from, I think 3 or 4.
> Is memetics a male thing !?
because they dont pop up (! what a 'hidden' choice of phrase Ken!!) does not
mean they are not watching :-) voyeurs perhaps? or just letting the
'children' play in the sandbox. :-)
In our species, if you go back through history, a mental bias is present
which due to our education is not as pronounced these days as it has been.
This bias is for males to prefer SAMENESS and females to prefer DIFFERENCE.
Our current culture's emphasis on choice and so DIFFERENCE will skew these
general determinations and, whats more, the older you get, or the more
educated you are, the more 'balanced' you seem to become, however the biases
are still there.
Rationalism and so Science is in fact founded on analysis of DIFFERENCE
within SAMENESS; Science aims to get 'behind' the DIFFERENCES we find, with
the goal of discovering algorithms and formulas and so the SAMENESS behind
the DIFFERENCE.
Moralists on the other hand analyse the SAMENESS within DIFFERENCE and doing
so they seek to determine the 'good' from the 'bad'.
The 'pure' male is SAMENESS in that they like things to be ordered,
perfectly clear, never changing. They are single context thinkers, favour
the local over the non-local. They like to assert their context, to take
over, to combat or play. Schizophrenia is considerably higher in males than
females and there is a link of psychosis to SAMENESS processing.
The 'pure' female is DIFFERENCE in that they favour change, they like to
'fuzz' the boundaries, keep you guessing, prefer the implicit, foreplay,
over the explicit. They like to dissapear, to sink back into the background,
shape shifters. Depression is considerably higher in females than males and
there is a link of depression to DIFFERENCE processing.
From these very general descriptions have emerged 'us', where we are an
entanglement of these properties. Thus most DIFFERENCE oriented end up as
teachers, both male and female, but more female than male at
primary/secondary levels.
'Pure' males prefer the apprenticeship approach (to copy and so SAMENESS at
a very refined level) and so function outside of institutions (This allows
them to set the context) and the rationalist types prefer tertiary levels
where they can battle with their minds :-)
To determine you 'current' mode try the quick MBTI test where a
categorisation containing the letter pairs NF or SJ favour DIFFERENCE
whereas a categorisation containing the letter pairs NT or SP favour
SAMENESS.
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond/qmbt.html
best,
Chris.
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Chris Lofting
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