From: Robin Faichney (robin@mmmi.org)
Date: Wed 12 Oct 2005 - 07:14:40 GMT
Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 1:32:53 PM, Derek wrote:
> At 23:41 02/10/2005, Dace wrote:
>>  Elsasser wondered if our everyday experience of memory
>>involves action at a distance over time.  To explain ontogenesis, we need
>>only posit that newly developing organisms are influenced, via bodily
>>memory, by past, similar organisms, primarily those belonging to the same
>>species.
> I've read this several times, and really tried to see if I can 
> somehow make sense of it, but the only conclusion I can come to is 
> that we must have fundamentally different views on what constitutes 
> "an explanation".  If you really believe in the above, then it seems 
> to me that you believe in magic.  Given that I'm sure you would say 
> you don't, then it must be a linguistic confusion over the meaning of 
> the word "explain".
> How can you possibly take a term out of psychology, and then propose 
> that it can explain embryology, and furthermore by a mechanism that 
> acts at a distance over both space and time?  Was Elsasser really 
> proposing that the embryo of, say, a dinosaur developing in the late 
> Jurassic is currently, as we speak, exerting some 
> space-time-independent effect on a vertebrate embryo developing right 
> this moment?
> You see, when I set that against standard developmental biology, I 
> just can't grasp why a sane reasonable person would choose such a belief.
Indeed. "Action at a distance" is a profoundly unscientific concept.
Like "intelligent design" it's an attempt to dignify ignorance and
make it permanent. Can't see how a particular cellular mechanism could
have evolved? Then it obviously must have been designed! Can't find a
link in a supposed causal chain? Well, it must be action at a
distance! Both appeal to "common sense", both are sheer nonsense.
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