From: Chris Taylor (christ@ebi.ac.uk)
Date: Thu 14 Apr 2005 - 06:48:55 GMT
ish...
What I'm driving at is that the 'culture' we grow in isn't just the
actions people perform in front of us. All that is in our heads
(ignoring some basic pattern recognition wired up to our midbrains
(faces seems to be one) comes either from copying (explicitly or through
some internal model generation) or is 'inspired' by the environment in
the widest sense. Therefore without stimuli we are literally nothing
(except the experience of existing will create some stuff).
Culture is not meaningless, it is key (in the wider sense as I have
tried to define it above). What is meaningless is to draw a ring around
some portion of that which we experience in the world and say that
_that_ 'is' culture (i.e. to stop at culture as usually defined).
I admit I'm stretching what most people would understand by the term, by
making it synonmous with the environment in full. I'm not tremendously
bothered what camp this puts me in tbh.
(Nearly) all that is in me came in from outside, through my senses.
Cheers, Chris.
Bill Spight wrote:
> Dear Chris,
>
>> Cultural memes can be regenerated by artefacts according to a posse
>> on here yes? Is pop art culture? Is 'natural' art? Is Nature itself?
>> Where is the demarcation between culture and environment? This is a
>> meaningless distinction.
>
>
>
> Please correct me if I am wrong, but from what you say, you are not
> claiming that ~memes are cultural (since 'culture' is meaningless). That
> is rather different from what the meme machinists are saying.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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