From: Chris Taylor (christ@ebi.ac.uk)
Date: Wed 13 Apr 2005 - 23:00:10 GMT
cf. the extensive recent stuff on artefacts and ~meme (which means not
the trivial dinner party 'cultural virion' conception) [re]generation,
as I mentioned in parentheses previously. It's not all about backwards
baseball caps y'know.
Bill Spight wrote:
> Dear Scott,
>
>> This is just wrong, surely? The example you give is, if anything,
>> evidence that the child has taken past experience (~meme) of
>> purposively dropping things (this is equivalent to an artefact
>> causing the reconstitution of a meme as recently discussed), almost
>> uniformly while standing still, and reused that ~meme in a new
>> context without decomposing it _at all_.
>>
>
> Does '~meme' mean 'non-meme'? ;-)
>
> Where is the culture in this? Where is the transmission? The so-called
> meme, "Things fall straight down," is not part of modern scientific
> culture. People don't transmit these ideas to children, nor do they
> mischievously set things up so that children get these wrong ideas.
>
> Children have minds of their own, and do not wait for the culture to
> teach them everything. If they had to, we would not be such a successful
> species.
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> P. S. For a time when I was three years old I thought that calves gave
> chocolate milk. Nobody suggested that idea to me. You can see the
> analogical thinking. To be sure, the idea of chocolate milk is cultural.
> But not the idea that calves give milk. Nor the overall analogy.
>
> Now, some people may believe that analogical thinking is cultural. I
> strongly doubt it.
>
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