Re: "Ideas have a life of their own" (Origin of Quote?)

From: Dace (edace@earthlink.net)
Date: Sun 07 Mar 2004 - 22:39:33 GMT

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    > >Steven Thiele wrote:
    > >Take a look at Kierkegaard's _The Concept of Irony_, which I believe has
    a
    > >comment about ideas having a history, a birth, death and life.
    >
    > Hmm. "Life" occurs only 4 times in the essay and none of them are
    > associated with "idea" or "ideas." "Idea" occurs 4 times in this
    > paragraph. I have added white space in an attempt to make it
    > readable. The connection to the quote origin is foggy. Part of that may
    > be because this essay was translated out of Danish. If anyone wants to
    > comment, be my guest.
    >
    > Keith Henson
    >
    > The World-Historical Validity
    > of Irony,
    > the Irony of Socrates
    >
    > [...]
    > insofar
    > as the _idea_ is concrete in itself, it is necessary for it to become
    > continually what it is-that is, become concrete. But this can occur only
    > through generations and individuals.

    Kierkegaard is treating the idea as a thing in itself. It has a goal, and it pursues its self-fulfillment by way of human minds. In granting agency to the idea in place of consciousness, K. is here speaking memetically.

    Ted

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