From: Van oost Kenneth (kennethvanoost@belgacom.net)
Date: Sun 07 Mar 2004 - 10:38:06 GMT
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From: "Keith Henson" <hkhenson@rogers.com>
> "In none of these cases was there any likelihood, as the Chicago
> Tribune noted, of the actors in life having read the books they were
> spiritedly staging. "Ideas have a life of their own," the Daily News
> interviewer tentatively ventured, but he may have been surprised as G.K.
> "agreed heartily" in the words, "I am no dirty nominalist." "
Keith,
" It may be an illusion to believe that ideas are the esssence of social
life; but it is not an illusion to believe that they are relatively
autonomous of
it, since this is itself a material fact with particular social
determinations . "
Terry Eagleton, Ideology, An Introduction 1991 page 75.
He says this in relation to what Marx (1818- 1883) and Engels ( 1820- 1895)
had to say.
They don 't say that ideas have a life of their own, not at least in so many
words but I am pretty sure that if we read Das Kapital ( Marx) and the
communist Manifest ( Engels/ Marx) in German that references to the quote
will pop up.
So, in essence the idea/ assumption that " ideas " had a life of their own
was pretty much part of the social discourse ' round that period...thus even
before your 1910.
Or is that too much too far from the intented search....
Regards though,
Kenneth
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