Re: meme as catalytic indexical 2nd try at posting

From: M Lissack (lissacktravel@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu 29 Jan 2004 - 14:23:36 GMT

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    Keith

    please try a little bit of sounding like an academic or a scientist

    you believe or are of the opinion that the statement is correct

    the attribution is the pdf Danny asked us to read

    copying fidelity has NOTHING to do with meaning transmission

    if it did then signs could always be mapped in a functional way to meaning -- as any semiotician would tell you -- it just ain't so

    --- Keith Henson <hkhenson@rogers.com> wrote:
    > At 02:13 PM 28/01/04 -0800, you wrote:
    > >Danny is of the neurons in the mind school:
    > >
    > >"I think when referring to memes, we actually are
    > >referring to a pattern in the brain that can be
    > >transferred to another person via translation to
    > >language or some other symbolic representation, and
    > >that can then be transmitted from the second person
    > to
    > >a third person without losing much informational
    > >content (copying fidelity).... So a meme is an
    > >abstract concept that can survive
    > >transmission/translation from one brain to another.
    > A
    > >successful meme is one that does so frequently."
    >
    >
    > Could you attribute this?
    >
    > It is a correct statement, memes are abstract
    > concepts (information) that
    > are encoded in patterns in brains. They can also be
    > encoded in media
    > besides brains, though it is only in brains that
    > they have real world effects.
    >
    > Incidentally, we improve copying fidelity as much as
    > is needed for memes by
    > the normal approaches of redundancy and error
    > checking/correction. Some
    > memes are copied from generation to generation with
    > extreme accuracy, for
    > example the year Columbus sailed to the West Indies.
    > the rules of common
    > sports, and the procedure for changing a tire (tyre)
    > are almost certainly
    > known to everyone on this list.
    >
    > Keith Henson
    >
    >
    >
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