RE: memetics reference on news

From: Richard Brodie (richard@brodietech.com)
Date: Sat 11 Oct 2003 - 22:36:15 GMT

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    I'm fairly sure just about any cultural phenomenon can be explained without resorting to memetics, just as any math problem could be solved without resorting to the Calculus.

    Richard Brodie www.memecentral.com

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk
    > [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Bill Hall
    > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:33 PM
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: memetics reference on news
    >
    > To me, the concept of a tipping point relates more to the
    > concept of a Kuhnian paradigm shift, when the accumulation of
    > acceptance and evidence reaches a point of inflection where
    > the new paradigm becomes dominant.
    >
    > Thus, the applicability of the term does not necessarily
    > assume an acceptance of a memetic interpretation of the
    > nature of belief and knowledge.
    >
    > Bill Hall
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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "derek gatherer" <dgatherer2002@yahoo.co.uk>
    > To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
    > Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:51 AM
    > Subject: RE: memetics reference on news
    >
    >
    > > > Anyway is the tipping point idea of cultural transmission
    > compatible
    > > > with memes? Does it need memes to work as a theory of cultural
    > > > transmission/evolution?
    > >
    > > My own interpretation is that the 'tipping point' is a notional
    > > juncture at which a meme moves from cultural drift into cultural
    > > selection (as Cavalli-Sforza & Feldman would have said), or
    > the point
    > > at which it becomes contagious. This can only be
    > identified post hoc.
    > >
    > >
    > >
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