From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 10 Sep 2003 - 01:44:44 GMT
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To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
From: Ray Recchia <rrecchia@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: The Ontogenesis of the Gurwitschian
Perceptual Structure
Part II
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> Just do a little more leg work and find out what developmental
> psychologists are doing perceptual experiments with infants. I suspect
> a couple of hours hunting with Google should give you some leads.
> Then write a nice note explaining that you are interested in
> discovering the least specific clues that a baby uses to distinguish
> the smile and sound of its mother's voice at different points during
> development.
>
> You posted all three parts of this at the beginning of August. The
> second one was the only one I could follow. As far as I can figure
> out you are looking to tie word meaning distinctions made by semiotics
> into some hard research on brain structures and their development.
> This and other postings have tweaked my curiosity enough that I might
> wade into the semiotic world for a look around at some point.
>
> Ray Recchia
>
As I have previously posted, I see the relation between
semiotics and memetics, as philosophical doctrines concerned with the
realm of meaning, as isomorphic to the relation between
phenomenology and Piaget's genetic epistemology (philosophical
doctrines concerned with the realm of being). In short, both
phenomenology and semiotics are static, and provide 'shapshots' of
mature perceptual (phen.) or cognitive (sem.) structures, while both
genetetic epistemology and memetics are dynamic, and provide
'movies' of the development of perceptual (gen. epist.) structures and
the dispersal of cognitive (mem.) structures. Together, these four
disciplines seem to be interrelatable in a philosophical square
characterized by the terms meaning, being, static and dynamic.
The Four Laws of Thought (if A then A, if not-A then not-A, Not
both A and not-A, either A or not-A), the AEIO statements (all A is B, No
A is B, Some A Is B, Some A is not B) in Aristotelian logic, and the
Greimassian square of meaning (example: knowing how to be, knowing
how to not be, not knowing how to be, not knowing how to not be, where
wanting, showing, etc. may be substituted for knowing, what to, when
to, where to, etc., may be substituted for how to, and do, say, make,
etc., may be substituted for be) also describe similar squares. There
seems to be a deep logic at work here underlying similar surface
structures depicting the possible permutations of identity (Laws of
Thought), relation (Aristotelian Logic), and signification (Greimassian
Square).
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