From: Scott Chase (ecphoric@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue 09 Sep 2003 - 06:13:07 GMT
>From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: RE: Norplant as social engineering device?
>Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 01:32:53 -0400
>
>Good example, thanks, Scott.
>
>In the mid and late 70s, Technology Assessment (TA) was explored
>aggressively by the National Science Foundation and other organizations.
>The
>idea and hope was that by studying secondary and tertiary effects
>carefully,
>one might avoid the pitfalls that seemed to plague well-meaning social
>engineering. The Aswan Dam had been a salutatory example, one that
>Americans
>could accept because it was a 'Soviet' project. It also became clear to
>non-chauvinistic Americans that Americans too might make such social
>engineering mistakes. Demonstration TA projects suggested that even with
>the
>most thoughtful looks at effects, society was complex enough that
>predicting
>the consequences of a social policy (or of a technology) was very
>difficult.
>Complex models were developed, using the increasingly available computers,
>to establish base-lines of societal variables, against which developmental
>scenarios might be assayed and otherwise unidentifiable effects detected.
>For example, EPA developed the massive SEAS model, which, as far as I know,
>never rendered a practical result. (If anyone knows different, I would be
>delighted to know it....) It was an Leontiev input-output model of the US
>economy, showing material transfers among sectors, and included
>waste/pollutants. Very ambitious, and a lot of hope was held out for it.
>
>If anything, the degree of care that is brought to the consideration of
>candidate public policies is worse than it used to be. TA seems now to be
>given short shrift.
>
>So I share your thoughts, Scott, on the need to proceed most cautiously and
>thoughtfully, and with a lot of monitoring of effects, and a willingness to
>modify the program. And in the light of current experience, as well as
>past, I would add that the utmost transparency, accurate reporting, and
>vigorous debate would be essential accompaniments to social policies and to
>the deployment of new technology. And even with all of that, mistakes will
>be made, and, sometimes, they will be big ones. But I don't see human
>beings
>giving up on innovation and hope for progress.
>
I tend to prefer Karl Popper's take on piecemeal engineering, short term and
continually reassessed projects, to Utopian or holistic engineering, which
is pie in the sky.
>
>And: "hypnopedia"?
>
My way of spelling hypnopaedia, which is Huxley's term for "sleep teaching",
a means of programming an ideal citizen within the "utopia".
>
>Cheers,
>Lawry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
> > Of Scott Chase
> > Sent: Mon, September 08, 2003 11:50 PM
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Norplant as social engineering device?
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm finishing up the first read of Patricia Turner's book _I Heard it
> > Through the Grapevine: Rumor in African-American Culture_ (1993.
> > University
> > of California Press. Berkeley) and in her Epilogue she touches
> > upon a topic
> > relevant to recent discussion wrt birth control as social policy for
> > population control measures. After submitting a draft of her book Turner
> > noticed the emergence (ca 1990) of rumors that usage of the birth
>control
> > device Norplant was forced upon black women as a condition for receiving
> > welfare benefits. Though a rumor she comments on there being a kernel of
> > truth to it citing some suggestions in popular media that welfare
> > mothers be
> > encouraged via incentives (eg- $500 in money) to use Norplant.
> >
> > Turner says (page 222): (bq) "In all probability, the rumors that
> > began to
> > circulate about these devices [Norplant] were heavily influenced by
>media
> > attention. Since policymakers *have* suggested that welfare
> > mothers be urged
> > to have the devices implanted, some might argue that this
> > constitutes "real
> > news" as opposed to "mere rumor"." (eq)
> >
> > Focusing more on the kernel of truth here that these suggestions
> > have been
> > entertained, though Turner points out the outcry citing critics
>including
> > arch-conservative Cal Thomas casting this as a new form of
> > eugenics, I urge
> > caution about putting forward birth control measures (even
> > voluntary ones)
> > as a strategy for population control. Even a benign sounding idea
> > to curtail
> > population growth, a situation which putatively leads to people
> > feeling the
> > tears of privation and incubating xenophobic "memes", could have
>negative
> > implications, even if unintended.
> >
> > Having choices available to individuals needing them is a noble
> > cause, but
> > when this becomes an exercise in social engineering, for instance
> > if someone
> > were to think that by encouraging certain people not to have children
> > because their socioeconomic situation might breed a sense of privation
> > leading to deleterious "memes", that's when we should be a little more
> > cautious IMO.
> >
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