From: Brent Scofield (brent@atomicphotography.com)
Date: Mon 08 Sep 2003 - 21:32:57 GMT
I joined this mailing list about a week ago, hoping to first listen in on
and then eventually join in discussions surrounding the concept of memes and
the development on memetics. My problem with your posts is not the politics
of them, but the vague and undeveloped ways in which you relate your
interpretation of current issues to memetics. You do use words like
"memebot" and "memeplex" in some of your posts, and while I think new
vocabulary is super-fun, I also think you should at very least spend some
time with each of your posts relating what makes it relevant to this mailing
list. The concept that ideas spread is not new to memetics, and if people
post every article which contains in it something about the spread of a
particular idea or the development of an idea, or the definition of an idea,
etc., then this list will be innundated with links to articles and peices of
articles.
As an example, in your response below you mention something about "how the
US planned to incubate the democracy meme". Is meme-incubation something you
just made up, or is it a developed concept in memetics? If you just made it
up, how about elaborating about how meme-incubation could work, how it could
fit into an evolutionary model for ideas. You can, of course, use your own
examples, and if other people find you concept useful they might even find
example that come from a different political perspective, or from a
non-political perspective, and we might ignore each others politics for a
while and talk about memetics. That would be great.
Brent
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of joedees@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:28 PM
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Subject: I find it sad yet hilarious...
...that the "Hate Bush" prejudicial memebots on this list do not
address the points I make (I suspect because they can't), but rather
engage in gratuitous and personal ad hominem attacks against me.
The entire exchange started when I posted the text of a US president's
speech on terrorism; is that sort of thing forbidden by memetic filters or
list rules?
As to my last two forwards, one had to do with how the US
planned to incubate the democracy meme into Iraqi culture, and how
that meme seemed to already be spreading to other places in the
Muslim world.
Those who would rather cover their eyes rather than have their
biases and delusions confronted by facts and logic are, of course, free
to filter my posts; then their cybernetic filters would match their memetic
ones.
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