From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed 18 Jun 2003 - 00:39:10 GMT
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:05:16 -0400
Subject: Re: birthdays
From: "Wade T. Smith" <wade.t.smith@verizon.net>
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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>
> On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 06:23 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > By redefining the mind as part of the external, rather than the
> > internal, environment
>
> Alas, I've never done any such thing.
>
> The mind is an internal quality of a human being. The cultural venue
> is the environment within which at least two human beings perform and
> observe. Therefore, the mind is not external.
>
> Again, a misunderstanding of the basic model is continuing your
> irrelevant criticisms.
>
> My only criticism of the memeinthemind model is its non-empiricism.
>
Cognitive memetics applies logic to evidence to draw entailed
conclusions. When the selfsame meme may be communicated through
different types of performances, it is obvious that the meme type is not
the performances themselves, but is differentially encoded in different
performance tokens. When it can be remembered between
spatiotemporally separate performances, it must be internally, that is,
cognitively, stored between them.
Science typically applies both inductive and deductive logic to empirical
observations, and in the cases I just listed, the procedure is no
different.
>
> - Wade
>
>
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