From: Keith Henson (hkhenson@rogers.com)
Date: Tue 17 Jun 2003 - 05:45:24 GMT
At 10:07 PM 16/06/03 -0500, Joe wrote:
>"XXXXX will exist and will continue to exist until YYYYY will
>obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."
I think I may have another and less contentious example of memetic
trapping, i.e., when two groups are at each others throats and seem to have
no way to disengage short of one group (or both groups) going extinct.
I just finished reading Prehistoric Warfare in the American Southwest by
Steven A. LeBlanc. There is a decent summary of the book
here: http://www.athenapub.com/8prewar.htm
In short, the population of corn farmers in the American Southwest built up
over a long period of good weather. When the weather turned cold and
dryer, there were shortages. Groups took to raiding each other. In
defense they built large fortified towns, but in doing so, they had to
abandon a high fraction of their farmland, making their resource crisis
much worse.
Of the 27 rapidly built, fortified, mutually supporting clusters of pueblos
on the Colorado Plateau, 24 of them failed. Only the Hopi, Zuni and Acoma
were left after a generation or two--and these had large distances between
them. Bad as the weather was for these people, the memes about how to "get
along" with neighbors and how to protect themselves from the same neighbors
resulted in a more-than-weather caused massive population shrinkage,
perhaps as high a percentage as what happened to the Easter Island
inhabitants before they were contacted. (It is fairly clear that Easter
Island was headed below the minimum interbreeding population size for long
term viability.)
http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/2001decembereasterislandpage2.htm
(Read all the way to the bottom for the memorable "inflammatory taunt that
suggests a time of cannibalism 'the flesh of your mother sticks between my
teeth'!")
It might be less contentious for this mailing list to consider (from our
hundreds of years of accumulated knowledge over what these people had) if a
"better" set of memes could have made a difference? If we can come up with
a better solution than cannibalism (and some way to impose it) there might
be a current application in the mid east.
For that matter, we might need good solutions (memes) ourselves. A year or
two of major crop failures in a "Globalized" world and we will all start to
get very hungry.
Keith Henson
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