Re: _Religion Explained_ by Pascal Boyer

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Date: Sat 07 Jun 2003 - 00:57:43 GMT

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    Date sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 20:18:54 -0400 Subject: Re: _Religion Explained_ by Pascal Boyer From: "Wade T. Smith" <wade.t.smith@verizon.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Send reply to: memetics@mmu.ac.uk

    >
    > On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 08:10 PM, Chris wrote:
    >
    > > So what is an internal dialogue under that model?
    >
    > Just that and nothing more. And that is enough, since this internal
    > dialogue is only a facet or a quality of one of the agents of culture.
    >
    > > So again, what about imagining a game of baseball - all nine innings
    > > if you like, with historical all star squads - does that
    > > informational pattern have no existence in reality?
    >
    > That internal dialogue, or pattern, _has no_ relevant existence to
    > cultural evolution, which is all I'm saying, and all the memeinthemind
    > model is _not_ saying.
    >
    > It doesn't matter one fetid pair of dingo's kidneys whether or not
    > someone plays a game of _anything_ in their head- unless and until
    > they actively _behave_ in a venue where they can be observed, there
    > will be no cultural distribution of their thoughts, their ideas, their
    > improvements to the game, or anything else.
    >
    > So, yes, all of that informational patterning does have _no_ existence
    > as far as culture is concerned. And, since when does culture have to
    > be concerned with reality?
    >
    But if there were no human cognitive informational patterning, there would be no human culture, really. I have never noticed a boulder culture.
    >
    > As far as I know, never. Well, hardly ever. Ask that god knocking at
    > your back door. After all, this is a thread about religion....
    >
    > - Wade
    >
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