From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat 31 May 2003 - 19:35:45 GMT
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> From: <joedees@bellsouth.net>
> > > On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Kenneth wrote:
> > > > Those ' communicalities " are indeed than not stored, they are
> > > > made right there within the moment of context itself.
>
> > Not in the case of venue-independent communication, such as my
> > telling someone my birthday. It could be anyone, anywhere. And I
> > certainly remember my birthday when I'm not communicating it, yet it
> > is communicable. That makes it cognitivwely stored AND memetic in
> > nature.
>
> Hi Joe, a little bit late.....
>
> Anyway, yes you can remerber your birthday, but at the moment you
> think about it, something has induced it...it could be anything,
> moreover pure thoughts. But on the other hand, do you tell your
> birthday to anyone !? Do you go out on the streets, holding up people
> and telling them the day you were born !? Why !? There is apperantly
> no reason, but in many cases, like street- animation is one, it could
> be part of an art- form, physical theatre.
>
> I am not convinced that the day I was born is cognitively ' held '
> inside my brain, as such...as an information- entity. Something
> induced the info to come forward...but what do you remerber exactly !?
> Just a date, a few numbers, a year combined in a specific meaning,
> some special gifts...and the more you think about it, the more you '
> ll " remerber ", but is the kind of info held inside your head as such
> or is it induced by the environment, by context, by feeling or emotion
> !?
>
> In Wade 's scheme, the fact along you remerber your birthday
> means somewhere, someone did, said,...or whatever something,
> a word, a phonecall has been made, a card has been giving to
> you, someone you work with has celerated his/ hers birthday
> yesterday or will be tomorrow,....there are thousands perfor-
> mances which can induce the fact that you remerber yours.
>
> Kenneth
>
But the fact that a thousand *different* promptings can stimulate one to
access that stored information (and I'll bet just about anyone can
remember their birthday with no trouble at all) is one strong and telling
argument against the 'performance-only', memeisthemotion stance. OF
COURSE that info. is held inside your brain, and you can access it at
will. Other info. may be harder to access and respond to fewer different
promptings, but it is still COGNITIVELY accessed.
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