Re: Laudable but Misguided

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Mon 26 May 2003 - 20:51:04 GMT

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    > On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 03:22 PM, Joe wrote:
    >
    > > The thoughts we have are indeed cognitive; on this Wade has agreed.
    >
    > I doubt anyone disagrees.
    >
    > > However, memes are the subset of thoughts that may be transmitted to
    > > and received from others,
    >
    > Not granted, as that supposition is merely definitional hand-waving,
    > however-
    >
    > > via commonly understood preformative action/perception encoding
    > > schemas.
    >
    > - granted, as a process of cognition and the cultural modus of mind.
    >
    > > It is logically inconsistent to on the one hand, acknowledge
    > > that a set (thoughts) reside in the mind, and on the other hand,
    > > that a subset of that set (communicable thoughts) do not reside
    > > there.
    >
    > It is again merely definitional hand-waving to declare that thoughts
    > have subsets, as if the mind were indexed.... OTOH, it is fundamental
    > that artifacts and memories are used to construct and maintain meaning
    > in culture, indeed, that meaning is entirely dependent upon culture
    > and its ability to maintain them. Symbols are thus maintained outside
    > the mind, because no single mind is a culture, and never has been.
    >
    > - Wade
    >
    Thoughts are divisible into communicable and incommunicable, being complementary subsets comprising the set of thoughts; both are cognitively encoded. It ain't definitional hand-waving; it's simple logic.
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