From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat 24 May 2003 - 16:57:35 GMT
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> > The transmitter/performer knows what the recipient/observer may not
> > yet know, and thereon lies the possibility of memetic
> > transmission/reception of encoded semantic content. And where is
> > this knowledge retained prior to performance, and where is it
> > assimilated subsequent to being opbserved? Internally, within the
> > cognitive gestalts of the transmitter and recipient, respectively.
>
> It is retained within the venue of which it eventually will be part.
> You can look at this as they were ' future memes ', not yet expressed,
> but already present waiting to emerge. There is always knowledge not
> yet known, always ideas not yet thought off, behaviors not yet
> observed, performances not yet expressed, inter- pretions not yet
> processed, conclusions not yet commented upon,....
>
Only if one considers one's own mind to be part of the venue, but that is
not what Wade means. He is denying the internal existence of memes
prior to their performative expression; this means that NO ideas can be
thought of, NO interpretations or conclusions can be made, NO
unexpressed performances can cognitively exist, nor can the intention
to express them exist. I find this bizarre and nonsensical.
>
> It is assimilated in and within the venue, it becomes part of the
> venue, it becomes part of the then anew grundnorm. The cognitive
> gestalt is just a part of the venue. You have ' evolution ' all the
> time...
>
> A wonderful concept and not so hard to understand once you get the
> hang of it.....
>
Wade is denying the cognitive gestalt; he is rejecting the very idea of
mentally stored memes. Whatever you've got the hang of is NOT what
Wade is saying.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
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