From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sat 24 May 2003 - 02:07:39 GMT
>
> On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 08:50 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > My position
> > is that both the internal and the external are necessary; the
> > internal for storage, mutation and selection, and the external for
> > replication.
>
> Thanks.
>
> My position is that the internal and the external are necessary- the
> internal (the performer and the observer) for storage and selection,
> and the external (the cultural venue, which includes all aspects of
> the physical environment, including the presence of the performer and
> the observer and their respective behaviors) for storage and mutation
> and selection, and the two in concert as performer and observer and
> venue for selection and replication.
>
> Not so extreme. And not so very different.
>
> When I said 'performance-only', I meant that only in relation to where
> the meme itself, the quantum of cultural evolution, is to be found in
> this model.
>
> And even the feral, as part of the physical environment, is an aspect
> of the cultural venue.
>
>
But by internal, I mean cognitive, that is, the memeinthemind that you
have been attempting so perspicaciously (and unsuccessfully) to
discredit. The within is no less real, and no less essential, than the
between.
>
> - Wade
>
>
>
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