From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 23 May 2003 - 19:49:31 GMT
>
> On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 02:43 PM, Richard wrote:
>
> > <<My criticism of the memeinthemind model stems completely from the
> > presently basic fact that you can't show me one.>>
> >
> > Do you have the same criticism of the theory of gravity?
>
> Interesting that you've brought physics into the discussion.
>
> Does the theory of gravity posit a graviton? I suppose it might.
>
> But, of course, what you are saying is- why can't you accept the
> theory of a memeinthemind since there are minds?
>
> Well, one has to get past a theory of mind in order to accept that,
> and, well, I think the jury is still out. Lots of very interesting
> testimony, however.
>
> Well, OK, so 'mind' is out as an analog to gravity. Maybe you are
> saying, why can't you accept memesinthemind since there is culture?
>
> And that particular question is precisely why I can't accept
> memesinthemind- because I can explain culture without them.
>
> Granted, I have to accept that a meme is not a necessary condition of
> the workings of a mind, but, that is relatively easy, as, again,
> no-one can show me one.
>
> Seriously, equating gravity with mind is specious.
>
But you cannot explain multiple modes of communication resulting in
indistinguishabe recipient behavior without them.
>
> - Wade
>
>
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