From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Fri 23 May 2003 - 18:59:55 GMT
>
> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > Exactly nothing unless both internal and external conditions are
> > both met; so much for performance-only.
>
> Again, the performance model _demands_ externa and internal conditions
> to be not only met, but necessarily and sufficiently present.
>
> At this point, I have no clue what in hell's name you think the
> performance model is. Which is why I asked you, in your own words, to
> elucidate it. Please.
>
You have also called it the 'performance-only' model, and denigrated
the 'memeinthemind' model in favor of it. This would indicate,
notwithstanding your statement above, a denial of the internal, including
the cognitive storage, mutation, and selection, of memes. My position
is that both the internal and the external are necessary; the internal for
storage, mutation and selection, and the external for replication.
Remember that it does not matter what happens between if the within
possesses no understanding; if I am feral, and do not possess
knowledge of written or spoken language, it does not matter what you
say to me or which book you hand me; thus both external written
storage and between-people verbal communication depend upon
learned and internally stored templates. Neither the internal nor the
external, neither the cognitive/perceived/interpreted nor the
performative/willed, is sificient; both are necessary for memetic
transmission, replication and evolution to proceed.
>
> - Wade
>
>
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