From: Philip Jonkers (philosophimur@dygo.com)
Date: Wed 21 May 2003 - 12:04:35 GMT
Wade:
>Again, every and any model of memetics needs to show how the meme is
>active in cultural evolution, and, face it, the memeinthemind just
>ain't- it just sits there, absent of cultural ecology...
Memes in the mind don't just `sit' there passively. The mind is generated and constantly `updated' by the cultural ecology it
is emersed in. No culture no mind and vice versa. I have tried to
argue for the essence of culture in the shaping of the mind with
my `feral children' postings 2 years ago or so. Memes in the mind
constantly interact with culture and both affect eachother's evolution,
a process which lies at the heart of mind-culture co-evolution.
Wade:
>The memeinthemind model also has a high hurdle to jump to show that it
>is a _necessary_ condition for cultural evolution.
The mind is the creative engine of culture, the converse holds water too: culture as the cultivator of the mind. I don't know if its a necessary condition but at least it's sufficient.
Phil
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