Re: transmission

From: joedees@bellsouth.net
Date: Sun 18 May 2003 - 20:32:04 GMT

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    > From: <joedees@bellsouth.net>
    > > Mind is active and alterational. Mutation and selection happen in
    > > there. It's where hooks and filters reside. Replication occurs
    > > between, by means of performance (including showing, telling,
    > > writing, etc.), but selection and mutation happens predominately
    > > within, in the accommodation to and assimilation with differing
    > > cognitive gestalts, and all of these are necessary for the evolution
    > > of memes to occur. The mind is much more than a conduit; behaviorism
    > > fell precisely because its doctrine demanded that it dogmatically
    > > and erroneously assume that a passive conduit between stimulus and
    > > response is all that the mind was.
    >
    > Yes, but on the other hand that is what science can come up with and
    > that is what we all agreed to. That is black and white, with no grey
    > spots possible. Still there is that tiny bit of doubt that within the
    > specific nature of memes, those last created a selection environment
    > for themselves in order to pro- pagate, evolve and survive. The mind,
    > or what we call it is, can be just part of a parameter needed from
    > within certain performances occur and where, for making the condi-
    > tions more probably, resides memory, hooks and filters. It is maybe
    > needed for memes to occur, but it can be that no meme resides as such.
    >
    > We have no indication that it is like this, I agree, but like I argued
    > as above, culture needs its performances, science holding on to its
    > own commands and parameters is one, saying in an odd way, that maybe
    > science is wrong, and I have no proof whatsoever, is another. We still
    > need the dichotomy....
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Kenneth
    >
    If meme templates exist, they must reside somewhere between our performances of tokens of them (logical entailment). And I don't think it's in the cuticles of our big toes.
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